Bugs and Suggestions

In my opinion, it would be safer, simpler and faster to delete Telegram from your device in critical situations. Providing that you have 2FA enabled it won't be easy to get access to your cloud chats' data. Of course all secret chats will be lost in such case, but that's the whole point of secret chats: they are exceptionally secure and evanescent. I reckon the second point makes them even more secure than Signal chats.

Artem Mar 28

Yura Mocherniuk

An innocent bystander may have knowledge of the account holder's phone number and can force person to enter to the Telegram. Removing the application does not solve the problem at all, and only a *double bottom* will help solve it.

Jonas Apr 8

Artem

How could an innocent bystander force anyone to sign into their Telegram account in any occasion? Also, if there is no app on the phone, how could, say, police know that that person used Telegram for their communications?

Artem Apr 8

Jonas

> How could an innocent bystander force anyone to sign into their Telegram account in any occasion?

By threats of physical harm, which has already been done by bandits and dishonest police officers

> Also, if there is no app on the phone, how could, say, police know that that person used Telegram for their communications?

Via Telegram's access restore procedure or with the logs of a mobile operator.

So you're saying a bystander is forced to force you to log into your Telegram account? Or how do you mean that?

What would logs of a mobile operator do higher forces any good when you use Telegram? The only SMS I have from them is at the first sign in procedure years ago, I highly doubt that my provider logged SMS since then.
Granted, the provider could look at IP endpoints your phone has contacted, but that can be easily resolved through a VPN connection.

At the same time, however, I wonder if it would help a person being confronted by the police or court whatsoever if they're using illegal tactics anyways, like forcing you to unlock your phone and show them your content, once they know you use Telegram anyways. Like, if they're going to arrest you with illegal methods for being on a demonstration or riot or whatever because the government is unhappy with what you're fighting for and they find out you use Telegram either by asking the provider for data (which is usually already illegal) or by looking for the app on your phone but with only a selection of chats, would those kind of people really evaluate whether or not the chats you have are fine and let you go or just arrest and convict you regardless of who you're in contact with?

> So you're saying a bystander is forced to force you to log into your Telegram account? Or how do you mean that?

The police beat the protesters and force them to enter the password from Telegram. This is what bandits, "police" and others do.

> The only SMS I have from them is at the first sign in procedure years
ago, I highly doubt that my provider logged SMS since then.

Mobile operators are forced to store and provide information about clients for several years, including content of a SMS. Read more about SORM (in Russia) and PRISM (in USA).

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We are also talking about mass situations, and not just specific and isolated ones. In the case of individuals, yes, they can find another reason to make a person feel bad. In the case of mass, these people will not be able to understand whether there is a double bottom inside or not. This is better than if a person will be forced to enter to the Telegram and attackers will see chats with protests or something else.

phoshiko Phosiko Apr 9

I think it would be better if it would be possible that all passwords belonged to 1 account. because if someone has multiple phone numbers, via checking SMSs it could be implied that the person has multiple accounts. and sometimes buying new phone numbers is impossible or suspicious.

Andrew 💢 May 7

You've just changed the idea of this suggestion. First of all, you CAN use biometric while using double bottom. Moderators don't understand anything.

Steven Mancera Aug 15

This is so cool.

It's basically you have ability to add a boogey PIN code, which you can set from any of these options. Maybe you can set from 1 to 3 boogey PINs:

• Your main PIN - opens all your DEFAULT chats and conversations
• Boogey PIN that filters and shows only certain conversations - opens Telegram but only shows certain chats
• Boogey PIN for Fake conversations - opens Telegram, but Telegram few auto-generates fake realistic conversations on your Chats list? Idk.
• Boogey PIN for Empty Conversations - Shows only empty Telegram app? With no conversations at all. All of your conversations are hidden
• Self Destruct Boogey PIN - Once you type it, maybe Telegram will only show an Empty Conversations, after remote deletion of all of your Telegram account?

S Sep 29

Simply AMAZING. THE FUTURE IS HERE.

Dava ✞ Oct 13

You can use the biometric data as usual for the entrance to the account with no secret chats or sensitive chats. When Face ID or Touch ID failed, then it’ll ask for passcode and that’s where you can enter the real passcode for your account with secret chats or fake passcode for the fake or normal chats.

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