Bugs and Suggestions

Just to add more prespective to this:

An admin on @PublicTestGroup made a channel where she showed all the creeps that annoyed her in private just for being admin on a Public Group. Some are really sick.
t.me/CreepyPMs

And there are other channels like the one from another lady that received a lot of private messages from creeps:
t.me/Noodspanda

X Oct 24, 2021

Totally indispensable. Line has this function. Viber too. Discord too. For example, in a group, the administrator and also each user, must be able to choose whether to allow (or not) receiving messages from other members (as in Viber). Also in Telegram Settings it must be possible to choose in a granular way (as in Line or Instagram) whether to receive message requests, or not to receive messages directly, and to choose in which circumstances to receive them and in which not. Fundamental. Many women are harassed here. It's very very important.

Joseph:
By the way, that doesn't solve the problem. At all. It's just a mitigation. Poor one.

It's the same if you have goats which get killed everyday by the wolf. What would you do in that case?

Would you kill the wolf, or, you would surround farm with a barrier?

What you were trying to suggest is to kill the messenger, you want to kill the whole point of the messenger. Does that make sense to you? It doesn't, to anyone other than you.
The better solution is to protect them with that barrier, which isn't the same as your suggestion. As I already said, and I repeat: You want to kill the point of this Instant Messaging app.
If you killed the wolf, another will come (a new shape of spamming will occur).

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My response:

A messenger enables you to talk to people. Most of the time you only contact your friends and family.
If you enter in groups it's probably because you want to talk there and know people there before starting a private message with anyone.

You are still able to talk to thousends of people out there in countless Public Groups and private groups.

The messenger is not dead.

You usually don't want that strangers contact you in private for no reason at all.

If you want that people contact you in private you set up a @username and you enable that feature.

The messenger will not be killed by just allowing users to decide if they want or not being contacted by strangers.

https://t.me/tgbetachat/870721
More about this discussion on that group.

Line option to only receive friends messages: https://t.me/appsdemensajeria/174

Line option to receive message request: https://t.me/appsdemensajeria/175

Other thoughs from another female user:

Someone with no username should be hidden, nobody can search them and their name can't be clicked if their messages are forwarded by default. —> maybe this one is better idea.

I am not really active in telegram anymore, I dont talk in public groups, didnt join any new group or chat here.

I can say hmm I didn't get any random PM for 2 months maybe?

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As a presonal note: I want to reiterate that this is a cry for help. There is not just 1 way of doing it and maybe my suggestion is not the best solution. BUT WE STILL HAVE AN ISSUE WITH PRIVATE MESSAGES THAT HAS NOT BEEN TAKED SERIOUSLY.

Viber option to choose if allow whether or not members of a group can send you messages

A screenshot of a friend of mine. She is inside Public Groups but she never said anything on them. No geolocation shared. Nothing. Just by being inside Public Groups

Ghian Oct 24, 2021

I completely agree with Fabian.

dot Oct 24, 2021

First of all I would like to open my message that I am fully aware of this problem. I also help moderate couple groups, some are large, some are smaller, and I am also often under attack from strangers, that's both including people sending me stickers, or straight up scams and worse things. I also have friends that suffer from it too.

But I also need to disagree with some of your points.

"We already asked and made noise with this topic back in 2016 or 2017... Probably no one will give a f*** about this."

This is is wrong and basically defeats your point. Because if "no one gives a damn about this" - why suggesting this again then? You know it's not true, I don't think adding this sentence works in your favor, but I understand the saltiness.

"Telegram Team lives in a bubble for years, they see things from another perspective as a New User that starts with Telegram, enters it's first massive Public Group and then it gets countless messages from bad people."

I can guarantee you that Telegram Team is aware of the problem. Don't you think this was one of the reason for implementing Anonymous Admins? So people aren't bothered in private?

So let's try breaking down why Telegram never actually added ability to block upcoming messages, at least in my opinion:

**Telegram is a messaging app** - What's the point of messaging app if
you can't message people? That's one of the arguments that are difficult
to swallow, because by design, the core of Telegram is ability to
contact people from all over the world. It's one of the reasons Telegram
grew rapidly in last couple of years. Here's one scenario that wouldn't
work out if people by default blocked non-contacts: Imagine me having
your phone number in my contact list, but you lost mine, we haven't
talked in years, maybe we were high school friends or whatever. I see,
you have a Telegram account but I can't message you to reconnect with
you, because you have it disabled.

I would like to remind everyone here that I would definitely want
ability to reduce getting amount of spam/scam/"hi/salom" I'm getting.
However, suggested solution here, in my opinion, goes against Telegram's
core principle of a "messaging app".

To add to it, I don't think "Archive and Mute" was a good solution too.
It's not even a solution, it will still create mess in your chatlist,
just won't put it right in your face. My "Archived chats" folder used to
have cause, it was place for me to put more "noisy" channels or groups
that I don't want to leave but I also don't want to be distracted by but
ever since I started being massively messaged it became a "Trashed
chats".

So what is the solution in my eyes?

We need ability to turn messages from strangers into requests for
communication that we can accept or reject. Turn "Contacts" option in
menu to "Contacts & Requests" that has badge with number of requests
awaiting decision. Before we accept/reject we should be able to see
common groups with that person to know where they are coming from.
Additionally we should be able to preview a message they sent to us with
that request (if there was any).

But this shouldn't be by default, if we don't want Telegram to die in
couple of years it must keep growing. People who join public groups are
very likely only a minority of users on Telegram. It's us who are in the
bubble. However, everyone should be able to set it as they want from
the start. Archive and Mute is flawed martyrian concept of "please
suffer enough so we can turn your Archive into Trashbin".

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