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Like many have asked before (for different reasons) for years (even before we had this suggestions platform) and as you can see with other suggestions in this platform too:
https://bugs.telegram.org/c/1748
https://bugs.telegram.org/c/3417
https://bugs.telegram.org/c/10535
https://bugs.telegram.org/c/10533
There is a need by some people to be able to avoid private messages for non-contacts.
Why?: There are many reasons on why to add this feature.
As a social person i enjoy being inside Public Groups. It's amazing to be able to talk to other people from all around the world.
But it comes with a cost:
Users/Scammers/Spammers and Autommated Accouns that are (or not) inside public groups can annoy you in private.
For some unclear reason Telegram decided to just ignore the issue. They added a bunch of options that are not enough.
For example there is a hidden privacy option to Archive and Silence new Private Messages from non-contact users.
It's a step forward but this option only appears if you litterally get bombarded with hundreds of unknown users...
Most of the people that ask for a way to disable Private Messages from non-contacts are females.
Making that option hidden until some unknown conditional is reached feels like Telegram is embracing all those Creeps to allow them to annoy those females in private.
Not letting anyone decide if they want to (or not) receive private messages just kills the spirit of Public Groups for some minorities.
To be fair: We already asked and made noise with this topic back in 2016 or 2017... Probably no one will give a f*** about this.
Telegram Team lives in a bubble for years, they see things from another prespective as a New User that starts with Telegram, enters it's first masive Public Group and then it gets countless messages from bad people.
And don't take me wrong... More than 80% of people are really nice human beings... But in a group of 10K users even if just the 10% are the worst it's enough to drive you crazy with private messages from strangers.
Other suggestions:
https://bugs.telegram.org/c/3417
https://bugs.telegram.org/c/10548/15
https://bugs.telegram.org/c/10548/20
By the way, that doesn't solve the problem. At all. It's just a mitigation. Poor one.
It's the same if you have goats which get killed everyday by the wolf. What would you do in that case?
Would you kill the wolf, or, you would surround farm with a barrier?
What you were trying to suggest is to kill the messenger, you want to kill the whole point of the messenger. Does that make sense to you? It doesn't, to anyone other than you.
The better solution is to protect them with that barrier, which isn't the same as your suggestion. As I already said, and I repeat: You want to kill the point of this Instant Messaging app.
If you killed the wolf, another will come (a new shape of spamming will occur).
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My response:
A messenger enables you to talk to people. Most of the time you only contact your friends and family.
If you enter in groups it's probably because you want to talk there and know people there before starting a private message with anyone.
You are still able to talk to thousends of people out there in countless Public Groups and private groups.
The messenger is not dead.
You usually don't want that strangers contact you in private for no reason at all.
If you want that people contact you in private you set up a @username and you enable that feature.
The messenger will not be killed by just allowing users to decide if they want or not being contacted by strangers.
https://t.me/tgbetachat/870721
More about this discussion on that group.
Line option to receive message request: https://t.me/appsdemensajeria/175
Someone with no username should be hidden, nobody can search them and their name can't be clicked if their messages are forwarded by default. —> maybe this one is better idea.
I am not really active in telegram anymore, I dont talk in public groups, didnt join any new group or chat here.
I can say hmm I didn't get any random PM for 2 months maybe?
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As a presonal note: I want to reiterate that this is a cry for help. There is not just 1 way of doing it and maybe my suggestion is not the best solution. BUT WE STILL HAVE AN ISSUE WITH PRIVATE MESSAGES THAT HAS NOT BEEN TAKED SERIOUSLY.
But I also need to disagree with some of your points.
"We already asked and made noise with this topic back in 2016 or 2017... Probably no one will give a f*** about this."
This is is wrong and basically defeats your point. Because if "no one gives a damn about this" - why suggesting this again then? You know it's not true, I don't think adding this sentence works in your favor, but I understand the saltiness.
"Telegram Team lives in a bubble for years, they see things from another perspective as a New User that starts with Telegram, enters it's first massive Public Group and then it gets countless messages from bad people."
I can guarantee you that Telegram Team is aware of the problem. Don't you think this was one of the reason for implementing Anonymous Admins? So people aren't bothered in private?
So let's try breaking down why Telegram never actually added ability to block upcoming messages, at least in my opinion:
you can't message people? That's one of the arguments that are difficult
to swallow, because by design, the core of Telegram is ability to
contact people from all over the world. It's one of the reasons Telegram
grew rapidly in last couple of years. Here's one scenario that wouldn't
work out if people by default blocked non-contacts: Imagine me having
your phone number in my contact list, but you lost mine, we haven't
talked in years, maybe we were high school friends or whatever. I see,
you have a Telegram account but I can't message you to reconnect with
you, because you have it disabled.
I would like to remind everyone here that I would definitely want
ability to reduce getting amount of spam/scam/"hi/salom" I'm getting.
However, suggested solution here, in my opinion, goes against Telegram's
core principle of a "messaging app".
To add to it, I don't think "Archive and Mute" was a good solution too.
It's not even a solution, it will still create mess in your chatlist,
just won't put it right in your face. My "Archived chats" folder used to
have cause, it was place for me to put more "noisy" channels or groups
that I don't want to leave but I also don't want to be distracted by but
ever since I started being massively messaged it became a "Trashed
chats".
We need ability to turn messages from strangers into requests for
communication that we can accept or reject. Turn "Contacts" option in
menu to "Contacts & Requests" that has badge with number of requests
awaiting decision. Before we accept/reject we should be able to see
common groups with that person to know where they are coming from.
Additionally we should be able to preview a message they sent to us with
that request (if there was any).
But this shouldn't be by default, if we don't want Telegram to die in
couple of years it must keep growing. People who join public groups are
very likely only a minority of users on Telegram. It's us who are in the
bubble. However, everyone should be able to set it as they want from
the start. Archive and Mute is flawed martyrian concept of "please
suffer enough so we can turn your Archive into Trashbin".
I am salty, it's an issue that has
been there for too many years and i lost almost all my hope on this. I
still have a little bit left and therefore i tried to throw some words
out after someone asked the same old question one more time. It's sad to
say to those that ask about this issue: Telegram will not do anything
about this, your only option is to leave Public groups or change your
name and profile picture.
I did reported it many times to support and asked to those who asked to also do the same but here we are...
-- But this shouldn't be by default
Yeah, maybe you are right, i changed it after some users with the same thought.
In my opinion it's better to first have the privacy set to high and if you feel you don't need it then disable it.
The
main point stands, as i already said in other comments above. There is
an issue with Public Groups and Private Messages and SOMETHING more than
what we have now has to be done. Maybe not the way i say on the card
above but surely there has to be a way.
-- Don't you think this was one of the reason for implementing Anonymous Admins?
So why only care about admins and not maybe about females that are way more vulnerable??