Bugs and Suggestions

+1 And this should be the default way, maybe with an option to "notify" your contacts (only mutual contacts, rather than anyone who has your number) that you've just signed up.

Deleted Account Jan 20, 2021

Yelloww 🇬🇧 [PM ️👍] [he/him] [dog]

The fundamental.issue is not joining incognito. Its that you can never assume a "contact" is a friend. Contacts can be abusers and stalkers, created as contacts on the phone or app to help you remember and avoid them, or not reply if they message you. So there need to be 2 fixes here, not just one: 1) when you join,and when using the app, an option to say who gets told you're on Telegram (everyone, contacts only, nobody, whitelist etc). That's basically this suggestion, a way to silence others being told. But needs to be a security setting not just on join, so you can update it. 2) control over who can search for you by phone number. I do *not* want some people to be able to find whether my phone number is attached to a Telegram account. Right now.I don't have that choice, if they know my number they can find me, and probably with trial and error check what chats I'm in. If they can't find my account they can't stalk me.

The second thing you say is, when you adjust the visibility of the number in Nobody, a second layer is activated: Who can find me by my number?

Maxi Ríos Jan 26, 2021

I think the reason why you need phone number is to tell tlg you are a real human person and not an user or script to make multiple accounts to spam others.

Yelloww 🇬🇧 [PM ️👍] [he/him] [dog] Jan 26, 2021

Maxi, this isn't about needing phone number. Its about not automatically assuming everyone who has your number, or you have theirs, is a friend, and telling them automatically you're on Telegram. Some will be bad people, you want to avoid.

Deleted Account Jan 28, 2021

I just tested it, I signed up and denied Telegram any access to my contacts and I also have everything sync disabled, totally degoogled phone, everything... Two people that have my number started messaging me right away even though I didn't tell anyone that I have a new Telegram account.
For this reason I am switching over to Signal, Telegram totally failed to protect my privacy on sign-up.

Gon Paran Jan 29, 2021

Fadi Hannoun

This should not be the default as this is a social app but Definitely should ls be set by user prior to anything else.

Could be at setup step number one choose level of privacy with three predetermined privacy settings set for low medium and high and a forth for custom. Telegram added So many Preferences it has become a little bit cumbersome and people don’t even bother with them, Perhaps it is better to set a setting wizard like in the 90s with predetermined settings for everything including privacy settings

Fadi Hannoun Jan 29, 2021

Gon Paran

But Telegram is more of a privacy-focused messaging app, and almost all of us here have migrated to it from other apps because of that, so this behaviour is seen by many (including me) as annoying and anti-privacy (not all your contacts are friends).
Adding it as an option upon sign up might be a good idea, as long as they make it off by default so that it doesn't confuse new users.

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😈 Rafael M. RC 😇 Feb 4, 2021

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Yes, I felt that way too, when I installed Telegram in a friend smartphone, telling him that by disabling "sync contacts" no one will know if he had installed Telegram or not , but suddenly he received messages from people that had his phone number. Really is a big mistake in Telegram that should be fixed.

Telegram is NOT a "social app", is chat app, despite it's the BEST one.

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