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Group chat encryption is a feature that would greatly benefit Telegram, One major boost would be the increase in user numbers on Telegram being safe in the knowledge their messages can't be viewed by any wrong doer's.

PJ Jan 29, 2021

How do you know what kind of encryption is there? Paul also mentioned that complete safety in any case cannot be guaranteed, that in any case there are those who, if they want, will do it, such is the structure of the world

We know EXACTLY what kind of encryption is used, because Telegram is open-source and builds are verifiable. This is the beauty of Telegram. Another beauty is that Telegram knows what they are doing and provide users with OPTIONS — if you want maximum convenience, you can use regular chats. If you want maximum security, you can use end-to-end encrypted Secret chats (which you seem to not know to have existed).

You are absolutely 100% right on the theoretical concept of never achieving "the absolute security". But you also don't seem to understand the technical and practical implications of end-to-end encryption; this, however, somehow does not stop you from having an outspoken opinion on the subject and even expressing it by accusing others of "being paranoia".

This is absolutely fascinating to me. It's like if you have an outspoken opinion against safety in cars, and your only argument is: "Airbags or no airbags, absolute safety cannot be guaranteed anyway. So instead of being paranoia about safety, think of all the extra storage space you could get inside your glovebox and don't be crazy". Without knowing how airbags work.

InstinctUK Jan 29, 2021

Your one of them you know best doesn't matter what anyone else wants.

InstinctUK

Let me make myself clear: I DO want Secret Group Chats to be integrated in Telegram! This was exactly the point of my comment 😅

David Martínez Rubio Jan 30, 2021

Yes, and with multiplatform support. That is, another device from the
same account could have another key and so you could enjoy both end to
end encryption and multiplatform features

InstinctUK Jan 30, 2021

Ah ok sorry for the misunderstanding.

7bit Feb 1, 2021

Well put, PJ. My respects.

Also I would like to add that besides end-to-end encryption, secret chats are not syncing message history to all devices user have - and this adds a bit of security too.
So there are several reasons why users might want to have secret group chats.

And I personally would like to have this feature as an option.

PJ Feb 1, 2021

7bit

You make an excellent point about Secret chats being device-specific. I just realized for the first time that this is actually the reason for some of my Secret chats to exist.

Another great feature Secret chats offer is the self-destruct timer for messages. This is actually the main reason for most of my Secret chats. Would be great to have that feature in groups as wel.

InstinctUK Feb 1, 2021

It would be logical as well for telegram to implement encryption in group chats for so many reasons. It is illogical not to have secret chats in group chats. The amount of people I've heared in real life and the numerous internet comment sections state " Telegram is not secure enough for me, for my business, not encrypted " i could go on. Telegram if you happen to look at these comments atleast consider secret chats type level of encryption in group chats thank you. ( Think of all the new users you would get on board, not having encryption in all chats on Telegram is discouraging a lot of people from signing up )

Igor Feb 14, 2021

That is something that many Signal and WhatsApp users miss on Telegram.

D Feb 21, 2021

I think end to end encrypted group chat feature is essential. We only have server to end encrypted group chat (cloud chat) so far. Obviously, many features will be limited here. No of participants will be small. As data will remain in each devices.

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